Extract from Marriage Certificate Edward Chambers to Ann Parsons 1845. Parish of Brading (County Southampton). Here we can see that it states that Edwards father is stated as James Chambers a Labourer. If we look at the subsequent Census entries for this family, they quite clearly show Edward as born in Brixton (see Brixton, IOW for alternative names such as Brighstone). A summary of his details are:

 

Summary of Edward CHAMBERS - 5 Mar 2010
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Name:    Edward CHAMBERS1-24
Sex:    Male

Individual Facts
Birth    abt 1826    Brixton, Isle-Of-Wight, Hampshire, England22
Census    6 Jun 1841 (age 15)    Brading, Isle-Of-Wight, Hampshire, England24
Occupation    bet 1845-1880 (age 19)    Carpenter
Census    30 Mar 1851 (age 25)    Sandown, Isle-of-Wight, Hampshire, England17
Residence    30 Mar 1851 (age 25)    Fileses House; Sandown, Isle-of-Wight, Hampshire, England17
Residence    27 Nov 1853 (age 27)    Landown, Brading; Ryde, Isle-Of-Wight, Hampshire, England16
Misc    27 Nov 1853 (age 27)    Ryde, Isle-Of-Wight, Hampshire, England16
Census    7 Apr 1861 (age 35)    Brading, Isle-Of-Wight, Hampshire, England22
Residence    7 Apr 1861 (age 35)    Datch Cottage; Brading, Isle-Of-Wight, Hampshire, England22
Census    2 Apr 1871 (age 45)    Sandown, Isle-of-Wight, Hampshire, England19
Residence    bet 1871-1891 (age 45)    North St Pernes Cottage; Brading, Isle-Of-Wight, Hampshire, England18
Misc    27 Mar 1880 (age 54)    St.Matthews, Lambeth, Surrey, England15
Census    3 Apr 1881 (age 55)    Brading, Isle-Of-Wight, Hampshire, England18
Census    5 Apr 1891 (age 65)    Brading, Isle-Of-Wight, Hampshire, England20
Death    1896 (age 70)    Isle-of-Wight, Hampshire, England21

Marriages/Children
1. Ann PARSONS1,3-5,7,9,11,13,16,17,23,25,26
Marriage    1845 (age 19)    Isle-of-Wight, Hampshire, England23
Children    Elizabeth Harriett CHAMBERS (17 May 1846 - )
Arthur James CHAMBERS (20 Sep 1847 - )
Virginia Emma CHAMBERS (16 Sep 1849 - )
Eliza Anne CHAMBERS (18 Sep 1851 - )
George Henry CHAMBERS (27 Nov 1853 - 3 Feb 1924)
Ellen CHAMBERS (abt 1857 - )
Frederick Edward CHAMBERS (31 May 1858 - )
Alfred John CHAMBERS (3 Jan 1864 - )

Notes (Individual)
Census (6 Jun 1841): AGE:  15, Residence Sandown Village, Page Number HO107_404_405-0573, Birthplace Hampshire, England
Occupation (bet 1845 and 1880): At Marriage in 1845 was a carpenter. In 1853, at birth of son a Carpenter, also in 1880 at his marriage was also a Carpenter. - Reputed to have orignated and developed "Bathing Machine on Sandown Beach"
Census (30 Mar 1851): AGE:  28, Condition M, Residence Fileses House, Page Number HO107_1664_1665-0100
Residence (27 Nov 1853): Residence Landown, Brading, Sub District Ryde (Is it really Sandown?)
Misc (27 Nov 1853): Residence Landown, Brading, OCCU Carpenter, Role Father, Sub District Ryde
Census (7 Apr 1861): AGE:  38, Condition M, Residence Datch Cottage, OCCU Carpenter, Birthplace Brixton, Isle-of-Wight, Hampshire, England
Census (2 Apr 1871): AGE:  48, Condition M, Residence North Street, OCCU carpenter, Birthplace Brixton, Isle Of Wight, England
Misc (27 Mar 1880): OCCU Carpenter, Role Husband's Father, Residence St.Matthews, Sub District Lambeth
Census (3 Apr 1881): AGE:  58, Condition M, Residence North St Pernes Cottage, OCCU Carpenter, Birthplace Brixton, Isle Of Wight, England
Census (5 Apr 1891): AGE:  68, Condition M, Residence North Street, Peruer Cottage, OCCU Carpenter
Death (1896): AGE:  72, registered 1q 1896

Notes (Family #1)
Marriage (1845): registered 4q 1845

Sources
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17. Z-Census/English/English 1851/Hampshire/CENSUS DATE 30 MAR 1851 ,Sandown,Isle Of Wight,England.
18. Z-Census/English/English 1881/Isle of Wight/Chambers/CENSUS DATE 3 APR 1881 ,Brading,Isle Of Wight,England.
19. Z-Census/English/English 1871/Hampshire/CENSUS DATE 2 APR 1871 ,Sandown,Isle Of Wight,England.
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26. OR/Chambers/Name Withheld 20090322-001.

 

So you search for the birth of Edward Chambers. There is none in the IGI, or in the Isle of Wight [21] card index. Not relying solely on the card index then I scanned the Brixton Baptisms for the period looking for entries for Chambers. There are plenty and all living in place called Marsh Green (see map below). I also scaned the baptisms for the other people living in Marsh Green, and anyone with a Christian name of Edward whos parents were either James of Harriet. No luck!

 

The children that were baptised in Brixton are: (sources {1}= Microfilmed baptismal records for Brighstone, {2} IOW record office Card Index, {3}=IGI)

1. Children of John (labourer of Brixton-1828 otherwise Labourer of Marsh Green) and Eliza
   1. Edward Chambers 2/3/1828 {1} {2}
   2. James Chambers 19/9/1819 {1} {2}
   3. Anne Chambers 26/12/1824 {1} {2}
   4. William Chambers 19/6/1822 {1}
2. Children of James (labourer of Marsh Green) and Ann
   1. Elizabeth Chambers 26/5/1816 {1} {2} {3}
   2. William Chambers 2/6/1818 {1} {2 DATED 28/6/1818} {3 dated 28/6/1818}
   3. James Chambers 23/4/1822 {1} {2} {3}
   4. Hannah Chambers 1/8/1813 {1} {3}
3. Other Children of a James and Ann Chambers according to the IGI. Are these the same James and Ann?
   1. Chambers Charlotte  Christening: 1798/SEP/28 Brixton,Hampshire,England {3}
   2. Chambers Anne  Christening: 1804/JUN/10 Brixton,Hampshire,England {3}
   3. Chambers Israel Christening: 1809/JUN/25 Brixton,Hampshire,England {3}
   4. Chambers Hannah  Christening: 1809/JUN/25 Brixton,Hampshire,England {3} Note there are two distinct entries in the IGI for a Hannah, one in 1809 and the other in 1813

1. Others
   1. John Chambers (illig) 11/10/1820 son of Charlotte Chambers Spinster of Marsh Green {1}
   2. Ann Chambers 18/12/1824 (illig) dau of Hannah Chambers of Marsh Green{1}
   3. Amelia James 9/7/1820 (illig) daughter of Hannah James Marsh Green Spinster {1}
   4. Ann Woodford 14/9/1813 dau Philip & Heather Woodford Marsh Green

 

This gets us nowhere. Whilst there were a couple called James Chambers and Ann from Marsh Green that were having children there is little gap for a possible Edward in that period. The only Edward Listed was baptised to John Chambers and Eliza on the 2^nd March 1828. 

 

So let us go back to square one and have a re-look at the marriage of Edward Chambers and Ann Parsons. In this case to look at the Banns for the marriage of Edward Chambers to Ann Parsons. This says something very intriguing:

Brading 1845, Edward Chambers Boyce,  Bachelor and Ann Parsons, Spinster, both of this parish Banns Read Sept 28^th, Oct 5^th and Oct 12^th (They got married Oct 16^th) What is this name Boyce added into his name?

The entry on FreeReg [22] for their marriage is:

County	Isle of Wight
Place	Newport
Church	St Thomas-a-Becket
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate	23 Mar 1825
GroomForename	James
GroomSurname	BOYCE
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition	Widower
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename	Harriet
BrideSurname	CHAMBERS
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode

 

We then discover that James Boyce (Widower) married a Harriett Chambers on 23/March/1825 Newport (IOW). So was Edward the son of Harriet (before marriage to James Boyce) and he adopted (partially) his step fathers name? This might be verified if we could find out more about this family of Boyces. So we see if we can find them in any census data. So first we search the 1861 census and find James Boyce, His wife Harriet and their son George at 8 High Street Brading.

 

Extract from 1861 Census Brading IOW

 

The important thing here is that it establishes the family as being in Brading during the period 1825 to 1861 (i.e. they haven’t emigrated). Now from this we can ascertain that Harriet was aged 58 and hence born about 1803 in Brixton. James Boyce is aged 64 and hence born about 1797. When we look into the 1871 census we can find the son George Boyce, but by this time he has got married to a Julia. He is living in High street (same as 1861) but the census doesn’t say which street number.

 

Extract from 1871 Census Brading IOW

When George Boyce gets married it was as Samuel George Boyce to Julia Jane Woods in 1863 Isle of Wight.

Now let us step back to the 1851 census and this is where it gets interesting. In High Street Brading there are two cottages next to each other, one is Rock Cottage and the other Bank Cottage. It appears that James Boyce and his wife Harriet (nee Chambers) are living in Rock Cottage whilst next door in Bank Cottage is a John Haydon and George Boyce claims he is John's brother in law.

Extract from 1851 Census Brading IOW

 

Now from this we can ascertain that Harriet was born about 1802 in Brixton. Now we have an approximate birth date (1802-1803) and place for Harriet let us check in the IOW index and the IGI for an appropriate birth and what we find is:

 

Christening: Husband: Chambers James  Sex M, Wife: ? Ann  Sex F

Child Chambers Harriet  Christening: 1802/JAN/24 Shorwell,Hampshire,England

 

Now where is Shorwell? The following map shows us it is not too far (1.9miles) from Brixton and Marsh Green. So it could be the correct one.

Shorwell IOW 1830

 

So to verify this relationship to Haydon we need to establish if Elizabeth Boyce (Dau James Boyce and Harriet Chambers) married a John Haydon. We find this on FreeBMD as John Hayden registering marriage to  Elizabeth Boyce, Isle-of-Wight 4q 1849. (Seach found via Elizabeth Boyce).

 

On checking back with the 1861 census we find the Haydons weren’t living in High Street. Have to persue them later.

 

Now the tricky one the 1841 census. (see below). Here we find the family by limiting the search to Brading, and Thomas born 1836 plus or minus 2 years. Hey presto there they are as a family name of Royce! The Address is Sandown Village. Remember the ages are only accurate to the nearest 5 years. There is no relationship stated between the various members of the family and no place of birth except y/n for same county.

 

This entry introduces three new people James Boyce aged 15, Edward Boyce aged 15 and John Boyce aged 12. Bear in mind James Boyce and Harriet Chambers got married in 1825. Now if we make the assumption that Edward is in fact the Edward Chambers born about 1822 then whom are James and John. At his marriage to Harriet in 1825 James Boyce was a widow and had previously been married to a Jane Squibb who died in 1823 after having given birth to their third child. They had

1. Boyce Jane pn[803662] Sex F (-1816-) Christening: 1816/JUL/31 Iow,,Hampshire,England
2. Boyce William pn[803668] Sex M (-1820-) Birth: 1820 Iow,,Hampshire,England
3. Boyce James Squib pn[803665] Sex M (-1823-) Birth: 1823/FEB/23 Iow,,Hampshire,England

So it is likely that this James was the son of that earlier marriage. That leaves us with John could have to be an unregistered son of James Boyce and Harriet.

Extract 1841 Census Brading IOW

 

The next step is the birth of Harriet Chambers and who are her parents. (---comment on Boyce children---------). Harriets parents were stated as James Chambers and Ann.  Christening: 1802/JAN/24 Shorwell,Hampshire,England. There were up to 9 children who are the children of one or more parents called James Chambers and Ann baptised in Brixton. These are:

 

....to be continued.